mardi 31 août 2021

North River-13th Lake Area

Hi All,

I'm new to the site and way downstate and enjoy going to this site every day. The info and help when a question is asked makes it even better.
Anyway, I will be up in the 13th Lake area for a couple of weeks beginning on Saturday. I hope to get a pass from the boss and few days of fishing in. I'll have a 4 wgt. and 5/6 wgt. fly and a light spinning tackle (6-8 lb. test). We came up last year for the first time and didn't fish the lake due to input from a couple of people. I did get over to Pack Lake with my kayak and had a lot fun with some bass and pickerel. That being said - any thoughts or suggestions?
Is there enough water in streams up north to search for brookies? Worth wading the Hudson River? Ponds that might be worth a visit - I'm will to put in a hike, but will have to shore fish. Please just send general info - not asking for anyone's sweet spot. Thanks in advance, and by the way - a good bar for post fishing would be appreciated :D Thanks again. Bob


JBL parking

Hello everyone, I am taking my sons up to climb Gothics at the end of September. We will be arriving on Sunday and leaving on Tuesday. We have reserved a lean to at JBL just to make things easier on me as far as planning goes. My question is I’m assuming the garden parking lot will be full. What is my alternative to the garden? If you have a reservation at JBL do you get to park in a certain area? I haven’t been to the garden in a couple years so I’m trying to nail down the details. We will not be arriving until the afternoon on Sunday.
Thanks


lundi 30 août 2021

Stonecutter/Tiadaghton Trail Loop-Pine Creek Gorge

https://endlessmountains.wordpress.c...-state-forest/

A five mile loop in the Pine Creek Gorge with two vistas, rock outcrops, the rail trail, and views of Pine Creek itself.

https://www.instagram.com/p/CSdX0gtt..._web_copy_link


jeudi 26 août 2021

Cartop public boat launch on Blue Mtn Lake?

I saw a thread from 2019 that mentioned a cartop public boat launch on Blue Mtn Lake. Does this still exist and where is it. Planning some kayaking there in Sept.


Looking for an 8 day route

Any recommendations on an 8-day route with solitude and fishing would be greatly appreciated.

My BWCA trip will probably be canceled due to ongoing fires and I'm looking to travel up to NY in the middle of September for a solo trip.

Prefer to spend 2 nights on some lakes and would like to also fish.

I don't mind long portages or bushwhacking. I have a Swift Packboat, hammock, and go light/ultralight.

thanks
Dan in Pittsburgh.


mardi 24 août 2021

Anyone Else Having This Issue?

Using an iPhone 12, every time I log in to make a comment or post a thread I have to log in again after I hit “reply” or after I try to “submit” a post?
I had to do it twice just to post this thread, and it only takes me 2 minutes to type out.
AND, if I happen to use an apostrophe in my text, I end up with this below…
Any thoughts on this please?
So annoying to have to keep doing this. Doesn’t happen anywhere else but this website.



lundi 23 août 2021

Fish ID

Caught in a brook trout pond but that forked tail fin has me thinking splake perhaps? :confused:



dimanche 22 août 2021

ADK paddling books

Just getting back into paddling, starting with the Saranac Lakes area, but am looking for information about some of the more easterly streams. I have the ADK paddling books, but they're quite out of date (2003 and, especially, 1994). Are there newer ones available?


Sant Clara Flow/ Bikerafting?

Does anyone know if I can ride my bike back to the parking area at the top of Santa Clara Flow after paddling to the end of the flow? Looks like there is an old railroad or road that parallels the flow? I have a gravel bike that will be strapped to the deck of my boat. Thanks!


Hooked into a really nice Northern Pike on my recent trip

Just wrapped up Section 2 of the Northern Forest Canoe Trail and while I had a few Pike here and there and some great Bass fishing, this monster Northern Pike takes the medal as the prize of the trip. I have about 5 hours of footage to sort through before I can make a full video and trip report with photos, but I could not stop myself from sharing this big guy.




samedi 21 août 2021

Santa Clara Flow bike rafting?

Does anyone know if I can ride my bike back to the parking area at the top of Santa Clara Flow after paddling to the end of the flow? Looks like there is an old railroad bed there? I have a gravel bike that will be strapped to the deck of my boat. Thanks!


Little Tupper

Anyone know how the bass fishing is in Little Tupper? I know someone threw them in there a number of years ago which undoubtedly has all but wiped out the brook trout I imagine. Wondering if they were largemouth or smallmouth and how the fishing is. Its a big lake, so I'm thinking replies won't be spot burning. Just looking for general info, I don't mind doing my own exploring. I am aware that it can get pretty rough when the wind kicks up.


jeudi 19 août 2021

Anyone bushwhack MacNaughton this season?

A friend is trying to convince me to attempt the bushwhack with her in the next week or two. From everything I'm reading it's swampy and miserable even in the driest of years, which makes me think it would be particularly bad right now. All of the trip reports on here and the high peaks forum are at least a few years old - anyone have a more recent experience?


Overdue Trip Report - Middle Settlement Lake (7/22 – 7/23/2021)

TLDR: Prepare to get wet if you're starting at the Scusa Trailhead and heading to Middle Settlement Lake

My cousin and I decided to take a few days prior to a family reunion to do some camping and backpacking. We wanted a little time to decompress, so we decided to stay at Nick’s Lake Campground for two nights rather than stay at a hotel and then do a one-night overnight. (I have to admit, as much as I hate campgrounds with a passion, Nick’s Lake is a lovely one as far as they go.)

After looking at the maps and reminding him it had basically been raining for a week straight before we arrived, I gave my cousin a choice “we can either take a longer hike and shoot for a lean-to on a river (Remsen Falls) or take a shorter hike and try to get a lean-to along a lake (Middle Settlement or Middle Branch) which will be shorter and probably a lot muddier.” His direct response was “I’ll always pick a lake over a river, who cares about some mud!” So off to Middle Settlement Lake we went, and I don’t think I’m ever going to let him live that life choice down. :rolleyes:

We went in from the Scusa Trailhead and I laughed at him right away because it was muddy before we even made it the few feet to the trail register. We took the direct route to Middle Settlement, bearing left at the junction that would head you to Middle Branch Lake if you went right. Things were fine for about the first half mile or so, and then the mud started to increase, becoming more and more of a slog. Would have been ok with a high pair of gaiters, but he didn’t have a pair and I stupidly decided to leave mine in the car.

At about the halfway point, where the outlet from Grass Pond we hit what I would consider the first real flood-out zone. Beaver activity has basically wiped the trail out completely and it took us quite a while to pick our way across safely and then re-find the trail. Our boots got wet, but we somehow managed to avoid getting caught in water much higher than that. (Be warned, I think we got lucky with a few random bits of debris that happened to be there in the moment, so I would go in assuming it’ll be a walk-through-water situation here in the future.) From that point onward it was in and out of some pretty thick mud and some flooded/washed out areas, annoying, but nothing too terrible for a bit.

Right before we got to the lake itself (near where the trail to the lean-to intersects with the trail that heads towards Cedar Pond) we encountered what my cousin jokingly nicknamed “Swamp of Death.” When you look at the maps, it looks like the trail crosses over and heads to the north side of the lake a decent bit before the water itself. I don’t know if that ever was accurate, but it sure AF ain’t accurate now. That entire area is **completely** flooded out and backed up by huge boulders, so your options are to try to figure out a scramble (and I’m honestly not even sure that’s possible because we didn’t try) or just plow through.

Going straight through was trickier than it seemed, because it was almost a mirage -- the way the grasses and bushes are growing it LOOKED like you could walk through. Like REALLY looked solid. But, as they say, looks are deceiving!!! You take a step and you end up waist deep in water and mud praying you can get yourself out without losing your boots or getting your pack stuck. :mad: (Hypothetically, of course, this definitely didn’t happen to me, no way… :p;):banghead:)

Once we finally made it across, it didn’t really matter that we were soaked from Swamp of Death, because the skies opened up and we had a summer storm roll through.

We had a moment of absolute discouragement after walking a bit longer and finding a legal campsite along the lake that looked like it had been an old lean-to spot. In my frustration, I had a moment where I convinced myself the Lean-To had been taken down (No, I can’t explain that logic. It’s clearly irrational, but it made sense as a possibility in the moment, especially since the site was legal but not marked on any of the maps.)

Once we realized I was just being stupid, we continued on and made it to the Lean To, which, unfortunately, people had not left the in great condition. Lots of trash, “donations” that just make things worse – unused Cup-O-Noodles, an almost-finished candle stub, a few pieces of tin foil, completely rusted out crappy pot, things like that – and the fire pit was full of paper scraps that hadn’t been fully burned or cleaned up. For a Lean-To in an area that gets comparatively less use than other parts of the park, I was pretty frustrated. We cleaned up and took out what we could, but there was a lot more that we couldn’t take.

Fortunately, the location itself made me forget my frustration very quickly. A great spot overlooking the lake, an epic nap amid an incredible Adk thunderstorm and a family of loons that kept tabs on us the entire time we were there and provided a spectacular soundtrack.

We got up the next morning and decided to try a different route out rather than backtrack through the swamp. If you continue along past the lean to towards the other end of the lake, you hit an intersection where you can continue on to Lost Lake trail or turn onto a spur trail. Depending on what map or app you use, this trail either ends at a stream about a mile after the intersection or continues onwards to Copper Lake Road.

We decided to trust the old school paper map, which correctly showed the trail heading to the road. Of course, Beavers have decided to reclaim that trail for themselves over the past few seasons as well. :gripe: We were able to pick our way across for the most part, but I don’t know if that will be the case if a couple of decent storms run through the area. Made it out to Copper Spur Road and then road walked back to the trailhead. In hindsight, while it was nice to see the additional bit of Ha De Ron Dah, road walking sucks, so we probably would have been better off venturing back through the Swamp of Death.

Overall, it was fun to venture into an area of the park I hadn’t seen before, and is a hike my cousin and I will definitely remember, but it’s not the easy stroll that it appears to be on the maps!


any advice? paddle/camping Canada Lake/Stewart's Landing

Hi all, new to the area but an avid kayaker and primitive camper. I want to go for an overnight or 2 night paddle camping and saw that Canada Lake near Wheelerville is pretty close to me. Looks like there are several DEC campsites on the map.

Having never been there, it "looks" like I could put in and park overnights at either Stewart's Landing (south of the lake) or at the public boat launch off W Lake Rd just NE of West Lake (the western lobe of Canada Lake). Thoughts on either of these sites to put in and park overnight?

It "appears" on satellite maps that I could explore a few streams, which is another reason Canada Lake looks like a decent starting point. But I'm just looking at a map. Any experience you have or advice about these streams would be great. Starting at the top and working clockwise...

1- The stream between the public boat launch and north to Pine Lake.
2- The stream up to Mud Lake (the northern one).
3- Green Lake, and will it go all the way up to Otter Lake?
4- Frie Flow to Irving Pond and maybe even Bellow's Lake.
5- In the south there appears to be a small stream that flows south to three small ponds. One of the ponds might be called Mud Lake, not to be confused with the other Mud Lake on the northern side of Canada Lake.
6- The wide stream in the southwest corner of Canada Lake that leads to the dam at Stewart's Landing. It might actually be called Lilly Lake (that's how the campsites are designated anyway). I see it has small tributaries on either side.
7- It looks like there is a stream going directly west out of West Lake, toward Burnt Vly.

I know that's a long list, more than I'll tackle in just three days. Some of those might not be so great or so navigable, but if two or three of them are good paddles, I'd love to hear about it so I can use my time wisely. Obviously I can and will explore on my own, but better to go in with some knowledge from you all than to go in blind.

Anything else you think I should know about the lakes, streams, or campsites there before I go would be much appreciated. Thanks.


jeudi 12 août 2021

How the Adirondacks defined guitars

If you're a guitar player and more importantly an acoustic player, you probably know the term "Adirondack Spruce" as being synonymous with great instruments.

Adirondack Spruce refers to Red Spruce that grows throughout the Northeast and Canada but historically, particularly good supply came from the Adirondacks. Apparently from some sources I've read the region of this particular species matters for guitar building because large, straight-grain logs with few defects are needed for instrument building. Beyond that it is said that some of the northerly versions of this simply aren't as stiff as those that grow here. C. F. Martin in Nazareth, PA was well known for producing amazing sounding pre-war guitars with Adirondack Spruce tops.

Little of the original stands of Old Growth Adirondack Red Spruce exist today due to this highly desirable species. According to McMartin in 50 Hikes,

Quote:

Adirondack lumbermen sought softwood stands because only pine, hemlock and red spruce could be floated to downstream mills on the region's rock -based, steeply dropping rivers and streams. Spruce was the most sought-after of the softwoods. It was more abundant in the northern Adirondacks. Southern Adirondack stands of spruce were often isolated and hard to reach; as a result, a few never-cut stands of spruce can still be found. Red spruce rarely exceeds 30 inches in diameter. It is not an especially handsome tree but the long, straight trunks, rising to a small growing tip, made the species economically desirable. Hence, finding and uncut spruce stand is a rare experience, one that is almost never duplicated in other parts of the eastern United States. These old-growth stands are distinguished by the varied ages of the trees, the deep rich mosses covering the forest floor, and the amount of dead and downed wood.
As far as the instruments, this site has a nice summary of that:

Quote:

When carefully milled, red spruce produces stiff, straight boards whose sole true desire is to become guitar tops—not Christmas trees, paper pulp or packing crates. And what tops they are!

Enthusiasts fall over themselves searching for terms to top the tannins, burnt sugars and floral notes of the oenophile—robust, springy, clear, complex.

What it really comes down to is energy.

Adirondack spruce tops, due in part to legendary rigidness across and along the grain, translate the player’s intent—the slash of a pick, the caress of a finger, the genteel strum of a thumb—into sonic energy.


mercredi 11 août 2021

Island Pond and Long Pond

I've read with interest several trip reports by Tick Magnet about Island and Long Pond. I'm interested in hiking into both of them. I know you can also approach it from the Lily Pond area as there is a sign indicating a trail to Island Pond.

I have a few questions for anyone who has been in this area:

1) Is there a marked parking area on Padanarum Spur or do you pull off to the side of the road?

2) It appears the trail from Padanarum Spur to Long Pond has a detour around wet spots. Is the detour route fairly visible or should I expect a bushwhack?

3) Is the trail from Grassville Road to Island Pond an easier way to approach Island Pond?


mardi 10 août 2021

Crossett Pond

CalTopo shows a hiking trail on either side of Crossett Pond. If I'm not mistaken, the land on which the trails reside is privately owned.

Are hikers allowed on the property to hike?


dimanche 8 août 2021

Late August Lake Placid area recommendations

Hey everyone...I will be doing a week in Lake Placid the last week of August. It's not a fishing specific trip but looking to get out a few times. I've been doing a bunch of my own research and thought I'd lay it out here to get some opinions and maybe some other recommendations.

I'd really like to catch some walleye and then trout are probably second on my list. For walleye, I have reserved a boat on Tupper Lake for one morning, its about 40 mins from where we are staying on Mirror Lake. I know Tupper has lake trout too. We can get the boat at 7am...figure we'll throw some live bait along with some spoons and cranks. I don't have much experience fishing up there but assuming for walleye we should be targeting the deeper parts of the lake, especially as it gets closer to late morning. Anything closer to Lake Placid for good walleye action or is this a good plan?

For trout, plan on going out on Mirror Lake a couple times in a kayak or rowboat, and maybe once on Lake Placid itself, have read there are some monster Lakers in there.

Open to any suggestions, both in places to go and methods to try specific to late August to target these fish.

Thanks! And if anyone is ever looking for some info on further downstate fishing in the NYC reservoirs, feel free to ask.


samedi 7 août 2021

Piseco Big Bay, Mud and Spy Lake Canoe Fishing Trip

Right off the bat I have to say, the fishing in all 3 lakes as well as the connecting river was almost unbeatable. Some of the Largemouth and Smallmouth as well as the Pickerel I caught among these lakes were some of the biggest I have caught this year. Mud Lake produced a monster Yellow Perch weighing a little over 1lb and 13 inches long! He tasted great as well.

I started off by setting out solo in the Big Bay of Piseco camping and fishing there for 2 nights. Starting a trend that would last throughout my entire trip, it was windy (but not too bad) during the days but always nice and calm in the mornings and evenings. Making a habit of fishing early and late in the day I was catching really nice Pickerel all throughout the shallow Big Bay. There are huge swaths of weeds covering almost the entire body of water just under the surface making it a perfect place to use the Whopper Plopper or any top-water lure. Almost all the fish caught on this trip were actually on the Whopper Plopper 75 Perch Pattern with the exception of the Yellow Perch on Mud Lake who went after the old worm + Lake Clear Wabbler setup.

The next part of my journey is where I was really unsure if I was trespassing or not. The Piseco Outlet has a spillway with a large metal bar that hangs over the water making it impossible to paddle through without taking out. There were signs saying that I was on private land, but not posted signs. I wish I had actually taken a picture. They looked like DEC signs that said where I carried over was private land, and to be respectful and carry anything you took in with you out. I took that to mean that I could pass through, I hope I was right. Either way it was a very short carry, I took out on river left and just dragged the Radisson over a small grassy hill and plopped her back in the water on the other side of the spillway. After a very short and obvious rapids, if you could even call them that, you end up on what I believe is the West Branch Sacandaga River. I spent a little time fishing here as well picking up more average sized Largemouth and Pickerel in the slow moving water and weeds. Surprisingly there were some deep holes amid the shallow, weedy water.

Finding the Spy Lake Outlet was quite obvious and hard to miss based on where it's located in a bend on the river. Surprisingly the way through this marshy area was less challenging than I thought it would be. The water was high enough that I never had to step out of the boat and the path to follow through was fairly easy to stay on. In all I think it took me around 45 minutes to make it from the start of this marshy area to Spy Lake itself.

I ended up camping on the western bay of Spy Lake not far from where I entered the lake through the outlet. This is where I would end up doing most of my fishing during the trip. The action was always solid and never seemed to slow down until the last night of the trip where I only caught a few small ones, which is still hard to complain about. I did not keep track of exact numbers of fish caught, but I think they all ended up on video. The majority of the action was Pickerel, but in between I would hook into some really solid Large and Smallmouth Bass. I landed multiple 20+ inch Bass with some big bellies on them.

To break up the Bass and Pickerel fishing I decided to make a side day-trip to Mud Lake, just a bit south of Spy Lake connected to the same river I came in through. Paddling back the way I came the marsh was just as easy going as it was coming in. It took me about an hour to get from my campsite to Mud Lake itself. Despite the fishing being slow here, it was one of my favorite parts of the trip due to how remote it felt. I was the only person on this small lake surrounded by beautiful trees and a blue sky above me. I was not able to find much info on this lake and was actually worried it would be super shallow, but was deep than expected. My portable depth finder was reading 20 feet in the middle and I was hopeful I might find a Trout. What I ended up with was probably the biggest perch I have ever caught which ended up being my lunch for the day.

I did some exploring on Spy Lake and tried to find all the other campsites and I was able to locate all but two. They have either been removed or blocked up by one of the many fallen/hanging trees on the lake. According to the maps I have there was supposed to be another campsite in the bay my campsite was in but all I found was a spot that looked like it might have once held a firepit and a perfectly round discoloration on a tree that looked like it might have once had a disk nailed to it.

The rest of the trip was just more Pickerel and Bass fishing as well as hanging out at my campsite and reading a book I brought with me. My girlfriend came out to camp and fish with me on day 7 and on day 8 we returned home.

Spy Lake Road was another confusing part of the trip. There were many posted signs on the sides of the roads, but the gate was open and the sign at the boat launch was much like the one I mentioned earlier. It said we were on private land, and to stay on the road, which made me again think that we were allowed to be there? All in all I would put it down as a great trip. I had a ton of fun and got into some great fishing while getting to explore some new waters.

I uploaded an album of some shots of the fish and scenery here: https://imgur.com/a/uidlOdp







































Songs for 12,000 Year Old Brook Trout



mercredi 4 août 2021

Lake Lila - first time

You were all so helpful in last year's successful Round Lake trip I'm hoping for more sound advice for Lake Lila this year.

Unfortunately due to the way things are scheduled with work, I'll have to come in on a Saturday in August; at least it won't be Labor Day weekend when I visit. So, while I know my site choices will likely be limited by availability, I still want to know the best and worst things about any of the sites from those who have experience.

I'm kayaking (an old Perception America 11.0, so nothing great) with my gear largely in a pack in my lap, so, I'm tempted to just camp on the East end (heck maybe even site 1 or 24?) to save a lot of exertion paddling with my gear, however, I am not opposed to paddling to the West end or anywhere else for a desirable site. I'm trying to convince some folks with a canoe to come and then they can paddle my gear :)

I likely won't even bother with the islands as I don't want to pack in that much wood, although I like the appeal of not worrying about bears. How far from shore is Canada Island (site 6)? That perhaps would be close enough to paddle over and collect wood? I like that it's pretty well away from other sites too.

What's the best time to come in, aka, when do most people who are leaving head out?

I also want to hike Frederica and paddle up Beaver River as far as allowable. How much time is Single Shanty Brook worth devoting to a paddle?

My trip could be from 1-3 nights depending on weather and who, if anyone, comes with me.

I've been to check it out without a boat and walked the carry so I know what I'm in for there and I'll probably try to use my wheels to avoid carrying in my stuff separately.

I also have the Adirondack Paddlers Map for The Whitney Wilderness.

Last thing to note is I have a soft warm bed available on Lake Eaton if weather turns or something else arises so it's easy for me to bail on plans if needed.

With that I thank you in advance and am open to anything I need to know to make the trip a great one.


mardi 3 août 2021

Crane Pond Road

Looking for a status on the Crane Pond Access road. With the heavy rainfall this spring and summer, wondering how washed out some portions are. Anyone been on the road recently?