samedi 31 juillet 2021

Inez trail in Thrall Dam Park

Last winter we went on several snowshoe hikes on the Inez trail in Thrall Dam Park, off US9 in Lewis and noticed that although it crosses Burpee Brook on the map, there is no bridge. However, there are sections of a bridge stacked up next to the future crossing.
Today, I went back to the same location and noticed a lot of tire and tracker tread marks on part of the trail down to the crossing, but the bridge sections hadn't been moved. However, there were new concrete footings for that bridge, so progress is being made.
My questions are: Who is doing this? and When will it be completed?


New York Waterfalls Thread

"There are more waterfalls in Upstate New York than in any place in the east." - Robert Dineen, New York State Geological Survey glacial geologist

New York has an abundance of waterfalls scattered throughout the state, including some truly spectacular ones like Niagara, Taughannock, Chittenango, Kaaterskill, Salmon River, and OK Slip Falls to name a few. For the past fifteen years, I have visited nearly 100 waterfalls in the western half of New York State and still haven't gotten around to every notable, publicly-accessible waterfall in the region. There is no shortage of falls to explore in these parts!

In the late-2000s and early-2010s, waterfalling was my outdoors obsession. Armed with informative guides such as NYFalls.com, Falzguy's website, Go Waterfalling, Dig The Falls, and the 200 Waterfalls in Central and Western New York book, I sought out to explore everything I could within reasonable driving distance. Five years ago, I caught the peakbagging bug, resulting in a dramatic shift in my hiking habits. With waterfalling having been relegated to the backburner in recent years, I've only managed to slowly chip away at my lifelong goal to visit every waterfall in the western half of the state.

With this summer being exceptionally rainy, now would be a good time for me to increase the frequency of my waterfall-oriented trips. I'm planning a couple of Finger Lakes trips between now and year's end, and would also like to hike to some of the more impressive falls in Adirondack Park this upcoming winter (I postponed last winter's trip due to covid cases spiking and vaccines not being available at the time).

To kick off this thread, here are some photos I've taken in recent years:


Carpenter Falls, Cayuga County (2018)


Chittenango Falls, Madison County (2018)


Deckertown Falls, Schuyler County (2020)


Dehgayasoh Falls, Livingston County (2019)


French Hill Falls, Ontario County (2020)


Glen Mills Falls, Chautauqua County (2020)


High Falls Gorge, Essex County (2016)


MacIntyre Range, Essex County (2020)


Niagara Falls, Niagara County (2016)


Oak Orchard Falls, Orleans County (2018)


Pratt's Falls, Onondaga County (2018)


Salmon River Falls, Oswego County (2019)


Seneca Mills Falls, Yates County (2021)


Shequaga Falls, Schuyler County (2018)


Taughannock Falls, Tompkins County (2018)


Tinker Falls, Cortland County (2019)


Warsaw Falls, Wyoming County (2020)

Feel free to post any waterfall photos, trip reports, and route descriptions in this thread and I will do the same as I explore more falls in the area.


mercredi 28 juillet 2021

Golden Eagle and Dragons Back Loop-Pine Creek Gorge

https://endlessmountains.wordpress.c...-state-forest/

A 10.3 mile loop on the Golden Eagle and Dragons Back Trails with many fine vistas. Wolf Run has several small falls and cascades, but the creek was low. A great hike and a great alternative to hiking the GET alone.


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mardi 27 juillet 2021

RIP John "Louie" Ehrensbeck

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John "Louie" Ehrensbeck 1944 - 2021

OLD FORGE - John Robert "Louie" Ehrensbeck, 76, of Old Forge, entered into eternal rest, peacefully, on July 17, 2021, surrounded by his loved ones.
He was born in Utica, NY, on September 19, 1944, to parents, Kit and Earl, raised in Old Forge and graduated from Town of Webb School.
Louie is survived by his beloved children: Kelli (Shane) Parmelee, Katie Ehrensbeck, Kristin (Nick) Armendola, Kayla (Ryan Chauncey) Ehrensbeck and Kerrin Ehrensbeck. He also leaves his adored grandchildren: Henry Parmelee, Thailer and Reagan Ehrensbeck and Kit and Cooper Armendola; a special friend, Linda Compo; as well as many nieces and nephews and extended community of people who considered Lou family.

He was predeceased by his parents; siblings, Jim and Joan; and many close friends.

Louie was a talented athlete who went on to compete on the baseball field, ski hill and Nordic course. He was a member of both the US Alpine and US Nordic Ski Teams in the 1960's and competed in the 1968 Olympics on both the Men's Nordic and Biathlon Teams.

He was able to return to his Olympic stomping grounds in Grenoble, France, with his daughter, Kerrin, in 2019. Their three week tour of Europe brought him great joy and memories that he loved to share.

Louie settled in Old Forge, raising his five daughters and operating successful ski shop and ski tuning businesses, where he was happy to share his expertise, knowledge and words of wisdom. He was especially connected to local youth, spending many years coaching high school soccer and golf, as well as cheering on his hometown Eskimos from the bleachers, ski hill or sidelines, every chance he got.

Lou was a fixture around Old Forge; from his dedicated work at Thendara Golf Course and McCauley Mountain, to his wave and smile from his convertible, to sharing special time with his grandchildren. He always made time to stop and say hello, ask after people, share a chuckle, talk about how he hit 'em that day, or relive the best play of the soccer game. He taught countless local kids not only the sports of skiing, soccer and golf, but about sportsmanship, fair play and the value of hard work and teamwork.

He wore a lot of hats and cultivated many relationships, but his proudest achievement was his family. Local legend, Olympian, entrepreneur, mentor, coach and friend; his favorite titles were "Dad", "Poppy" and "Pop Pop." Louie will be remembered for his love of family and friends, his gentle manner, hard work and his devotion to his community.

In the seasons to come, when the sun twinkles on the morning dew on the greens in Thendara, when the first snowflakes of the season fly at McCauley Mountain and when the scoreboard lights up on North Street, he will be there still, in spirit, cheering on his hometown team.

The family would like to express their gratitude to St. Elizabeth Hospital ICU, Old Forge Ambulance, Thendara Golf Course, the first responders and medical staff.

Relatives and friends are invited to call on Friday, from 4:00-7:00 p.m., at Dimbleby Funeral Homes, 128 Fern Ave., Old Forge. Funeral services will be on Saturday, 10:00 a.m., at St. Bartholomew's Church, 103 Crosby Blvd., Old Forge, where his Funeral Mass will be celebrated. Interment will be private, at the convenience of the family.

Those desiring, please consider memorial donations to Polar Bear Ski Club or Kids Golf Camp at Thendara.

Memorial tributes and messages of sympathy may be left at www.dimblebyfh.com
He made the U.S. Alpine team, or downhill skiing, in 1961 before joining the Nordic team two years later. At age 19, Ehrensbeck arrived at the Olympic Training Center in Anchorage, Alaska.

Years of exhausting hard work earned him the trip to Grenoble, France to compete in Nordic ski and the biathlon (skiing and air rifle) at the Olympic winter games in 1968. An achievement so few have ever reached. “He was extremely humble," said Kristin. "When we were little we didn’t realize the awesomeness of being in the Olympics.”

Louie’s Olympic journey would meet heartbreak when he arrived in France. Leading up to the Nordic ski event, Ehrensbeck came down with an illness and was too sick to race. Missing a chance to earn gold for his country.

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Little Whiteface to Whiteface Trail

Does anyone have any details about the trail from the Little Whiteface summit to the summit of Whiteface? The only place we've found any information about it is on the Whiteface website, which lists it as an "expert" hike. (https://whiteface.com/trail/whiteface-peak-trail/) and their trail map: https://whiteface.com/mountain/trail-map/. I've checked every other source I can think of, and can't find the trail anywhere with either map or description.

My wife and I were thinking of splurging on the gondola ride up to Little Whiteface and then hiking to the summit of Whiteface from there, but need to make sure it's within our abilities, since we don't really qualify as "expert," I think.

Thanks,
Julian


Battle of the West Canada Creek (1781)

The actual location of Butler's Ford has been lost to history but is generally thought to be somewhere near the T/O Russia/Ohio line along the Creek.

Here's the background:

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The day after the battle Col. Willett ordered Capt. Littel to send a "scout" (scouting party as then called) from Fort Johnstown to follow the enemy, discover its direction and to report the same. Captain Littel had been slightly wounded in the Hall battle but took with him William Laird and Jacob Shew and set out after the enemy. (Shew was on service in many of the neighborhood posts, Fort Plain included, and is responsible for much of the information Simms used regarding local events.)

The enemy camped the first night near Bennett's Corners, four miles from the Hall, and the following day, striking the Garoga Valley, went up that stream and went into camp for the night (Oct. 26, 1781) half a mile beyond the outlet of Garoga Lakes. The next day Littel's scouting party came up and warmed themselves at Ross's deserted camp fires. After further observing the enemy's trail Littel became satisfied that they would go to Canada by way of Buck's Island. His party lodged in the woods, near Ross's last camp, and returned to Fort Johnstown next day, from whence Peter Yost was sent on horse, with messages to Col. Willett at Fort Dayton, to which post he had advanced.

Ross's party meanwhile was heading for West Canada Creek The retreating Tories and Indians struck the most easterly of the Jerseyfield roads (leading to Mount's clearing), followed it several miles and encamped for the night on what has since been called Butler's Ridge in the town of Norway (Herkimer County), half a mile from Black Creek.

Early the next morning (October 26, 1781) Willett started his pursuit. He halted at Stone Arabia, and sent forward a detachment of troops to make forced marches to Oneida Lake, where he was informed the enemy had left their boats, for the purpose of destroying them. In the meanwhile he pushed forward with the main force to German Flats, where he learned the advance party had returned without accomplishing their errand. From his scouts of the Johnstown Fort party, he also learned that the enemy had taken a northerly course to strike the West Canada Creek. With about 400 of his best men, he started in pursuit in the face of a driving snow storm.

The route of the pursuing band of Americans was as follows: From Fort Dayton up West Canada Creek, crossing it about a mile above Fort Dayton, going up its eastern side to Middleville, from there up the Moltner Brook to the Jerseyfield Road leading to Little Falls; striking the Jerseyfield Road northeast of present Fairfield Village, following it up and camping at night a mile or two from the enemy's position.

Willett's camp was in a thick woods on the Royal Grant. He sent out a scouting party under Jacob Sammons to discover the enemy. Sammons found them a mile or so above and, after reconnoitering their position, returned and reported to Col. Willett that the enemy were well armed with bayonets.

The American officer gave up the plan of a night attack upon them and continued his pursuit early the next morning (October 30, 1781), but the enemy were as quick on foot as he. In the afternoon he came up with a lagging party of Indians, and a short but sharp skirmish ensued. Some of the Indians were killed, some taken prisoners and others escaped. Willett kept upon the enemy's trail along the creek, and toward evening came up with the main body at a place called Jerseyfield, on the northeastern side of West Canada Creek. A running fight ensued, the Indians became terrified and retreated across the stream at a ford, where Walter Butler, their leader, tried to rally them. In this action it is said 25 of the enemy were killed and a number wounded. A brisk fire was kept up across the creek by both parties for some time. Butler, who had dismounted, left cover and took some water out of the creek with a tin cup. He was in the act of drinking it when he was seen by two of the American pursuing party — Anthony, an Indian, and Daniel Olendorf, a man from the present town of Minden. They both fired at once at Butler, who fell wounded in the head. The savage then threw off his blanket, put his rifle on it and ran across the stream to where Butler lay in great pain, supporting his head on his hand. Seeing the Indian brandishing his tomahawk, the Tory raised his other hand saying, "Spare me — give me quarters!" "Me give you Sherry Valley quarters" replied the red man and struck Butler dead with his weapon, burying it in his head. Just as the Tory captain fell, Col. Willett came up on the opposite side of the creek. Olendorf told him where Butler lay and the American commander together with Andrew Gray of Stone Arabia and John Brower forded the stream and came upon the scene just as Anthony was about to take his dead victim's scalp. Col. Lewis, the Oneida chief with the American party here came up also and Anthony asked permission to scalp the fallen Tory. The red officer asked Willett if he should permit it. Col. Willett replied: "He belongs to your party, Col. Lewis," whereupon the chief gave a nod of assent and the reeking scalp was torn off the quivering body of the man who had incited his savages to inflict death and the same bloody mutilation on the bodies of scores of men, women and children.

Anthony stripped Butler and returned across the creek to Olendorf. Here the savage put on the red regimentals and strutted about saying: "I be British ofser." "You a fool," remarked Olendorf and told the Indian that if he was seen in Butler's uniform he would be instantly shot by mistake. The savage thereupon hurriedly shed his victim's clothes.

Butler's body was left where it fell, and the place was afterwards called Butler's Ford. The pursuit was kept up next day, when Willett, completely successful by entirely routing and dispersing the enemy, stopped and started on his return march.

The sufferings of the retreating force of beaten Tories and Indians, on their way to Canada, must have been many and acute. The weather was cold and, in their hasty flight, many of then had cast away their blankets to make progress more speedy. The loss of the Americans in this pursuit was only one man; that of the enemy is not known. It must have been very heavy. Colonel Willett, in his dispatch to Governor Clinton observed, "The fields of Johnstown, the brooks and rivers, the hills and mountains, the deep and gloomy marshes through which they had to pass, they alone can tell; and perhaps the officers who detached them on the expedition."
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Mosquitos

Mosquitos here in Cleveland are getting really bad. Pretty much can't go out without getting bit multiple times. With the Adirondacks seeing more rain then usual, are they any worse then normal? Any chance they linger around longer then normal?


lundi 26 juillet 2021

Raquette River water level

So in three weeks I am planning a trip up to Tuppet Lake ,Raquette River atea. I would Ich like to put in at the boat launch off Rt 30. My question is, is the River running really high? If it is doch you tbink it will come down ? Tanks in advance.


dimanche 25 juillet 2021

Northern Pike Wilderness Trip Advice

I have tried to do some research on my own, but figured it would not hurt to ask here as well. I am looking to make a 7-8 day canoe trip with the main focus being Northern Pike. I know most of the remote ponds and wilderness of the Adirondacks contain Brookies, and those are certainly fun to catch, but I just get such a kick out of catching Northern. I just got back from a trip in the Saranac Lakes Wild Forest area with my girlfriend and it was great finding Northern in a few of those ponds, but it just was not the "remote" experience I am looking for. Does anyone out there happen to have advice on where I could find more of a wilderness setting that contains Northern Pike? I would really appreciate any help or hints!


DIY gunnel stops for canoe on Aero crossbars

Until I can get new Yakima adaptors (Landing pads) for my 2021 Outback, I had to find a way to safely carry at least one canoe. I’m a big believer in gunnel stops, particularly on the front crossbar to prevent sideways movement. A trip to your local hardware store will get you a functional pair for less than $10.

Get “zinc-plated double-wide corner braces”(2 pack). For me, 2” long braces (the height the vertical will rise up) work and don’t rise enough to hit the boat (tumblehome). They came 1.5” wide. You’ll also need 2 adjustable SS hose clamps suitable to fit around your crossbar.

I slipped on a length of old MTB inner tube as a soft wrap around the metal and fashioned a hard plastic sliding pad that sits on the top of the crossbar facing the center. This to make the boat slide easily into place & hopefully to protect the crossbar from scratching. I later added foam padding to the inside of the vertical face for more protection for my wood gunnels.

A nut driver on a cordless drill tightens the clamp fast to hold the flat part of the brace in place, outboard of the boat side (allows adjustments with the boat loaded). A wide flat blade screwdriver works too (or nut driver head on a 6-1 tools – you should have one of these in your car). Remember the width needed between clamps for your boat & they are on, in the right spot, fast.

Obviously, check the weight ratings of your crossbars. After this success, I used the same technique to temporarily fasten my wide Yakima bars both front & back so I can carry two lightweight canoes. Homemade outboard gunnel stops, and 2 wide center double sided stops with a U bolt strap loop make securing boats fast. This bar mount is temporary until I can get the new Yakima landing pads. I wouldn’t use this technique for heavy boats.

FYI - Forked lake level on 7/23/21 is 3-4 ft above normal. Entry sign indicates CG closed due to high water. Raquette flowing at snowmelt levels.


vendredi 23 juillet 2021

Elk Lake-Marcy Trail update

The bridge over the Inlet to the Upper Ausable Lake is now back in service. A railing will eventually be added, but the bridge is safe to cross with a bit of care. The rest of Marcy Swamp remains fully bridged.


jeudi 22 juillet 2021

Ironman Lake Placid

Ironman is Sunday July 25.

Road closures and delays throughout the area. Plan accordingly.


lundi 19 juillet 2021

Canada to re-open land border to vaccinated Americans 8/9

https://buffalonews.com/news/local/c...7a0af8897.html

Good news for Americans wanting to cross into Ontario, Quebec, and other parts of Canada. Key section from the linked article:

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To be eligible to enter Canada, American citizens and permanent residents must have received the full series of an approved vaccine – or combination of vaccines – at least 14 days prior to entering Canada, the Canadian government said in documents detailing the border reopening.

The approved vaccines are those manufactured by Pfizer, Moderna, Johnson & Johnson and AstraZeneca.

Americans traveling to Canada will also have to:

• Provide Covid-19-related information electronically through Canada's ArriveCAN app or web portal, including proof of vaccination prior to arrival in Canada.

Take a Covid-19 test before arrival.

• Show no symptoms of Covid-19.

• Have a paper or digital copy of their vaccination card.
Some politicians including Chuck Schumer are now calling for the U.S. to reciprocate:

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Senate Majority Leader Charles E. Schumer, who has pressed the Canadian ambassador to the U.S. and two U.S. cabinet secretaries on the border issue, also said the Canadian move should prompt the U.S. to act.

“Canada’s policy change is long overdue and has the potential to be terrific news for thousands who have loved ones, property or commercial interests across the border," said Schumer, a New York Democrat. "The United States must now immediately follow suit, make our policy uniform and further energize New York’s recovery."


Weber Grill at Crane Pond

Found this abandoned Weber Grill (minus a tank of propane) at Crane Pond this past weekend at the beach site (#4). I have no idea what the story is behind why it was left there or why it was even brought in the first place, but it is pretty big and seems to be in good shape. I am hoping whom ever left it behind is planning to come back for it, but if not, someone could probably help themselves to a free $600+ grill if they were so inclined. It would take a large rowboat, or double-canoe catamaran type of set up to haul it out of there without dismantling it. DEC is aware of its presence. Other than that the campsite(s) were spotless and quiet.


dimanche 18 juillet 2021

ADK by-laws member voting rights?

The Main ADK by-laws states ALL members vote for BOD and officers. BUT.... The ADK hasn't had any elections since 2012!... that was the last time members voted.

ALL BOD and officers have been self appointed according to a conversation I had with Mr Barret a couple years ago when he was hired n promised me something will be done to correct it.... My Barret told me the president was voted in by the appointed ADK BOD members... admittedly by him as violating members voting rights.

THis is an egregious violation of the by-laws. But recently they updated the by-laws (voted in by the members) to eliminated the members voting rights saying the ADK will now hire experts instead of holding member elections. Why anyone would vote yes is mind boggling! Members have no say in who runs the club now.

Since there hasnt been any member elections since 2012, all the officials n BOD have been sitting in violation of the by-laws right to this day... and have no right to speak for the members including revising by laws... shouldn't that make anything they instituted since 2012 illegal?

Seems no one cares in this organization, until ADK says they are throwing you out for by-law infractions.

Am I missing something here?

Ive asked this question many times but never get a straight answer.


vendredi 16 juillet 2021

Essex Chain Lakes

Took a whack at the newly-opened ECL tract. Started at Outer Gooley, in hope of reaching the Cedar. Nice double track, but blue trail disappears into the yellow, and no sign of where it bears off to the river. No worries; I was very close according to Strava... Went to Pine Lake where I heard a lovely loon call and saw a pair of them, just before the floatplane fired up and the place sounded like a race track for about 10 minutes. Not enough to spoil it, though. Nice campsite- would be a great place to overnight. Returned via same route to the rapidly decaying Gooley camp building. I hope they clean it up soon.

Then drove a looooong way to Newcomb and drove the the Hudson access parking and rode the short way to the Polaris Bridge. Very pretty. That stretch of the Hudson is on my Hornbeck list.

Then drove back to what I believed was the gate to the bike trail to the main complex. No signage, and very few trail markers. At interesection (with signs!) 3.5 miles in or so I headed south to the Cedar, passing Third Pond and the site of the former Inner Gooley camp. No sign of the buildings, which was nice. Rode and waded my way to the Cedar (many beaver dams messing things up on this and other trails, so be prepared to have wet feet) where I took a break at the double rapids where the river makes a 90-degree turn to the south, just upriver from where I would have popped out on the previous ride. Saw several deer along the way, but not a human for the whole trek. Back to the main intersection and then the half-mile to Fifth Pond. Nice campsite there, too. Headed back to truck and came upon a good-sized bear on the trail about a mile from the gate. Watched it for a little bit- beautiful creature. Then with a "Hey bear!" it was off like a shot...man, those critters can MOVE.

About 25 miles total on the day; chocolate milk and honey BBQ Fritos from Stewart's in LL capped off a fun day. Will return to paddle the Chain from the Deer Pond side. If I bike it again, I will go from that point and explore the Deer Pond Loop.

A trip to make if you are interested in seeing miles and miles of lovely woods, some beautiful bodies of water, and fauna. As far as MTB excitement, though, it's pretty low on the scale. But, no hills overly steep or long, so a nice way to spend a few hours in the woods, and the breeze of biking kept the bugs (somewhat) at bay.


Erie Bluffs State Park

https://endlessmountains.wordpress.c...fs-state-park/

A unique and beautiful park with 100 foot bluffs, deep ravines, giant hardwoods, and views across vast Lake Erie. We also used an extensive system of well-established side trails which greatly enhanced this hike. It was incredible to hike with the sound of the surf. Some of the hardwoods were truly huge, it was like a Cook Forest of hardwood trees. The forests along the bluffs were also unique, open understory with vines and giant trees. When the lake is low and calm, it is also possible to hike along the shore.


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mercredi 14 juillet 2021

Found: IPhone near Santanoni Preserve

Found an iPhone in the water while snorkeling near the bridge at the Santanoni Preserve in Newcomb. It charged up and turned on but it was password protected so I wasn’t able to obtain owner info. I’d like to return so please reach out if you or someone you know lost a phone in that location. Thanks!


mardi 13 juillet 2021

Protest and shootings on Big Moose Road in '74

I'm sure some of you remember this sad incident in ADK history:

EAGLE BAY, N. Y.—Indians encamped on state‐owned land near this Adirondack Mountain resort community have called upon the White House to intervene in a conflict with state authorities that began as a land‐claim dispute but became complicated last week by the shooting of two white persons near the camp.

An investigation by the state police of the Oct. 28 shooting incidents, in which a 9‐year‐old girl and a 22 year‐old man were injured, was stalemated for more than a week as the Indians continued to bar whites from entering a former girls’ camp that they claimed as an ancestral homeland last May.

In an effort to avoid aggravating a tense situation, the state police entered into negotiations on Oct. 30 with representatives of the Indian settlement to lay ground rules for the scope and conduct of the investigation at the campsite.

The negotiations produced their first results last Wednesday in an agreement that allowed the police to inspect the property for 20 feet on either side of Big Moose Road, where the man and the girl were struck in passing cars. However, the police were not permitted to enter the adjacent camp building inhabited by the Indians.

‘Land of the Flint’

The conflict started six months ago when a group of Mohawk Indians proclaimed an independent North American state of Ganienkeh, meaning “Land of the Flint” in the Mohawk language, at the 612‐acre campsite at Moss Lake in Herkimer County.

They put up a sign calling it the home of the Six Nation Iroquois Confederacy, a reference to the tribes of upstate and Canada—the Mohawks, Oneidas, Onondagas, Cayugas, Senecas and Tuscaroras.

Robert T. Coulter, a lawyer for the Indians, said a statement was sent to the White House on Friday saying, “A state of extreme crisis threatens the peace and friendship established by the treaties between the United States and the Six Nations.” The message charged that on four occasions in the last two weeks, “United States citizens” had fired on the settlement.

The Indians also said that, according to the terms of a 1794 treaty between the United States and the Six Nation Confederacy, the situation can be resolved only through the intervention of the President.

No arrests have been made in the shooting incidents and no charges have been filed. Following the inspection on Big Moose Road, the police removed their roadblocks but maintained additional men in the area. The police and spokesmen for the Indians are to continue their discussions this week.

While negotiations proceeded, an air of peaceful watchful‐waiting, which had persisted in this resort area ever since the Indians appeared on May 13, has now given way to an uneasy quiet, questions from local residents and a sense of frustration among some law‐enforcement officials.

“We never would have reached this state, if we had gone in and cleaned them out at the beginning,” a State Police spokesman in Albany said. “After all, two crimes have been committed and you don't negotiate a crime.”

But the State Troopers on the scene, many of whom served in the assault on Attica Prison, conducting their investigations and negotiations patiently, with no indication that any force is being planned.

And the two different disputes, the long‐standing civil question of the ownership of the land and the new criminal question of responsibility for the shootings—have become intermingled and confused.

“We had no problems with the Indians until this incident,” said Harry Fowler, in charge of the Eagle Bay Fire Police, standing outside the firehouse where the State Police have established a command post.

Douglas Bennett, who operates Big Moose Inn just up the road from the Indian occupied land, was bitter, however, about the shooting in which the gill was wounded.

“We are not dealing with Indians; we are dealing with savages,” he said.

But he and most of the local residents seem to be content to leave the matter to the police. They indicated concern with the possibility of future conflicts, with the impact on children and with the long‐term effect. Eagle Bay and the surrounding areas are dependent on the tourist business — summer vacationists, fall hunters and winter snowmobilers.

A hamlet with a permanent population of about 150, Eagle Bay is in the western Adirondacks in Herkimer County, about 55 miles north of Utica. It is on the shores of Fourth Lake, one of a string of Fulton Lakes that run parallel to Route 28 from Old Forge to Baguette Lake.

1798 Treaty Cited

A favorite vacation spot for New Yorkers today, the area was a favored hunting ground for the Mohawk Indians before the period of white settlement.

To Kakwirakeron, a 32year‐old spokesman for today's Indians, the area around Eagle Bay and, indeed, most of upstate New York has always been land that belonged to the Indians. He and his colleagues charge that the Treaty of 1798, in which the land was conveyed to the State of New York, is invalid.

“The claim of New York is based on the treaty signed by Joseph Brandt for the Indians, but he had no authority,” he said. “He was a traitor.”

Kakwirakeron, whose name means “Trees Lying All Over the Ground,” is a former structural ironworker who helped build the Verrazano Bridge in New York City and skyscrapers around the country. Before he came here, he was known as Art Motour, but he now prefers to use his Indian name.

Accompanied by his wife, Eintion, a Seneca Indian whose name means “Land of My Own,” Kakwirakeron came out of the blockaded Indian encampment the other night to explain why the Indians had taken the land. He declined to say how many Indians were inside but other observers estimated the number at between 30 and 70.

The rationale for the Indian movement, Kakwirakeron said, was that “this has been the land where our forefathers lived for thousands of years,” that it never was legally transferred to the white men and that it was the last chance for Indians to live in their own environment:

“We had no choice,” he said. “This was the only wild area where no white people lived. We did not come hereto make money, but to be self‐sufficient, living off the land in a cooperative farming community.”

The land that is now occupied is a 612‐acre former girls’ camp that was purchased by the state in 1973 for $783,000. The tract was made part of the New York State Forest Preserve and designated to be kept “forever wild,” along with other Adirondack areas.

After the Indians moved in the state filed suit in Federal Court to reaffirm its title and to get the Indians moved off, but made no effort to remove them. “We consciously” avoided a direct, conflict with the Indians,” a spokesman for the Department of Environmental Conservation in Albany said. “We didn't want another Wounded Knee.”

Local residents raised no serious objection to the Indian occupation because the land was not available to them either, according to Robert D. Hall, director of the local tourist promotion group. He and others in the area conceded that there might have been some minor harassment, catcalls and possibly even some shooting by some people in cars driving by the Indian camp.

The Indians said they had been treated very well in general by local residents, despite several occasions in which they charged bullets, had been sent into the camp from cars passing by, on Big Moose Road.

Conflicting Report

There are conflicting reports about the latest shooting incidents in which the two whites were injured, about three hours apart last Monday night. The Indians said they had been shot at before firing back, but the State Police said there was no evidence of any guns in the cars that were hit.

The injured were Stephen Drake of nearby Inlet and Aprile Madigan of Geneva, N.Y., who was a passenger in a car driven by her parents on the way home from a vacation. Mr. Drake was listed in good condition with a shoulder wound and the girl —shot in the back—in critical condition in a Utica hospital.

The Indians expressed sympathy for the girl We feel it very strongly,” said; Kakwirakeron. “Our children were shot at the day before We know what it is like. We burn at one of our sacred services for her recovery.”

But the Indians have remained adamant, despite the negotiations, about letting the State Police in to continue their investigation, citing a Treaty of 1794 with the United States Government.

That treaty, they said, provides that if an injury is done to a citizen of either the United States or of the Six Nations, the question shall be resolved by “negotiations”, between the United States and the Six Nations.

Moreover, the Indians add‐ed, they intended to keep their lands free of alien influence, which is why they have barred whites, including, one of their own lawyers from most of the occupied area.

One State Police official here, who described himself as sympathetic to the Indian position, said he hoped the investigation could proceed according to the laws of both the United States and of the Indians.

“Oor only concern is the shooting investigation,” Capt. Kenneth Crounse said. “The other dispute is up to the courts.”

“We have no confidence that the courts will render a just decision,” Kakwirakeron said, “but we are confident that it will work out because we have so much backing us up.”

-Harold Faber (Special to the NYT)
https://www.nytimes.com/1974/11/10/a...the-flint.html


dimanche 11 juillet 2021

Gore Hiking Trails July 11

Having skied Gore for over thirty years but never hiked it, wasn’t expecting much beyond the scenery I was used to. I was happily wrong. The Schaffer trail looked good and heard great things (gentle and follows a stream) but today was the Gore marked and signed trails from the base lodge

Bottom line is they are excellent! Trillium Trek which is up the Cirque Glades past huge boulders to Twister Cliffs (don’t see these while skiing) to the saddle. Up Ruby around the Alpine Summit Loop then cloud to summit. Back down Cloud to the Sidewinder trail which parallels Sunway to the base. Five hours 2500 vertical and just over 8 miles. Easy soft trails. Mostly new trails in the woods for hiking only except Cloud which is a work road basically. Gotta go back to do the Sunway trail to qualify for their Gore 6er challenge and fleece blanket by October. Overall a great day followed by tacos at food trucks at Basil and Wicks. Gore very quiet maybe 8 hikers and less than 10 mt bikers. A few folks taking the gondola ride. Kudos to Gore on these hiking trails. Family and I pleasantly surprised how good they are!


Wilcox Lake 7/10-7/11

Feel obligated to post, since I received the most info on this trip from this group. Spent a day and a night here as we just didn't feel like getting soaked on the NPT for a section was a good idea this week and we're glad we did. It's a lovely spot and while things were wet, they had started drying by the next day. We went in from Pumpkin Hollow Road and I was able to drive to the end right before the first snowmobile bridge, though it's a bit sketchy with holes and big rocks, so unless you have something with a little clearance, you probably should park at the TH a mile or so away. We stayed out of the lean to as there is a fly catcher nesting in the eaves and wanted to avoid scaring them off. There are several rowboats and canoes around and we took "The Watering Hole", an aptly named canoe for a short voyage. Loons were active and singing. Nothing bigger than that was spied as far as wildlife. On the way out we thought we were hiking down to the wire bridge across the East Stony Creek, but we were heading down an ATV trail to the creek and saw the trail to that bridge on the way out, but we just wanted to be done, so we'll save that for next time. A beautiful place so spend some time and after so much hiking in the High Peaks and more well-traveled areas, it is a real joy to find some solitude in the Adirondacks! Will keep seeking out places like this for sure!


vendredi 9 juillet 2021

Elderberries in the Adirondacks?

I have been noticing where there are elderberries blooming in the last couple of weeks here, mostly in wet areas and on stream banks. They appear, grow for a few to ten years and then die out, so every year I look for new plants. I like to freeze a few quarts each summer to make into pie later on. I'm wondering if elderberries grow wild in the Adirondacks at all, and more specifically in the northern areas. I'll be moving up that way next year if all goes according to plan and will be looking around hoping to find them. I never noticed any during my August trips, but I am guessing that they might still be green up there then, since they get ripe here in late August and early September. I'm not expecting anyone to divulge their secret locations, but a general idea of whether elderberries are to be found at all would be great.


NYC Chapter sues ADK

An exclusive downstate camp is at the heart of court filings between the New York City Chapter of the Adirondack Mountain Club and its parent organization, which voted to dissolve it last month.

The chapter is suing the Adirondack Mountain Club over that decision.


Full article...https://www.adirondackexplorer.org/s...pter-sues-club


jeudi 8 juillet 2021

Mysterious airstrip just inside the blue line?

Any information of what appears to be an airstrip located near Maple Lake just of of Wheelertown/Enos Road? The coordinates on google maps are 43.40785255074622, -75.08460960511151.

The clearing appears to be approximately 2,000' x. 100' but I can't find it on any sectional maps. Google Earth suggests that it was cut sometime between 1995 and 2002 based on the satellite imagery.

So it is a private airfield or a timber landing?


mercredi 7 juillet 2021

Peekamoose Blue Hole permit fee

I saw in the news that DEC was going to impose a $10 fee for permits to Peekamoose Blue Hole in the Catskills. I was disappointed to read that.

I am a big fan of the permitting system implemented at the AMR. And I hoped that it could be expanded to other trailheads. But my support of that system was based on it being free.

I am a fan of the system because it introduces much needed equity to trailhead access. It meant you no longer had to arrive at the trailhead at some ridiculous pre-dawn hour for a hike that didn't require such an early departure. But imposing a fee blows away that equity piece.

I know DEC was bothered by people making reservations and not showing. But just make it so that if you don't show within half an hour (or whatever) of your reservation time, you lose your spot and a "walk in" can take it.


mardi 6 juillet 2021

Paddling in the Tupper/Saranac Area

We'll be up in the area next week and I'm looking for a few paddle possibilities. We've already done many paddles in the area so I came up with a few that we have not done. For the trip I am planning, there would be four of us in a 16-foot Royalex canoe. We would like to do paddles with an emphasis on short/easy, prettiness of the waterway, views and a place to stop for lunch and/or swim.

1) Launch at Axton, through Stony Creek Outlet, then up Ampersand Brook as far as we can go before turning around. Can we go very far?

2) Chubb River near Lake Placid. Are there places to swim?

3) Launch at Saranac Lake Islands Campground and paddle downriver, through the locks, then find a trailhead to Owl and/or Pine Pond where we'd go for a swim. Is there a decent trailhead/trail from Oseetah Lake?

I would like to know if anyone has any comments on any of these.


Rail Trail Status - Between Tupper and Saranac

We'll be camping at Rollins Pond next week - our 21st consecutive year. We are excited at the prospect of eventually biking all the way around Rollins Pond and also biking all the way to Tupper Lake for lunch.

Does anyone know the status of the railbed? I thought I heard that in some places the tracks have been removed. Is it ready for biking yet? And any information on the status of the two planned trail links between the old rail line and the campground?


lundi 5 juillet 2021

Recent Ursack Use?

Has anyone been out and about with an Ursack in the last couple of years? I know there’s one poster on here that had a failure up in Colden several years ago, but my search of the forums doesn’t turn up anyone with recent experience and I think they’ve redesigned them again since then. I’m curious not just about bear interactions — bc the answer I hope is that no one else has had them — but about the ability to fend off the little critters as well.

I usually use a 60L pack and the bear canister takes up so much space that I hate using it when it’s not required. However, I’m also 5’1 so making a truly safe bear hang poses some logistical problems that I tend to not want to deal with after a long day of hiking, so I end up using my canister frequently in areas where it’s not mandated.


Road Conditions - Pillsbury Mountain // Spruce Lake

Hopefully this spares someone from suffering the same fate I did:

Someone took the chains and road closure signs off of the 1.5 mile stretch of road that goes from Jessup River Road up to the Pillsbury Mountain Trailhead Parking Area. Having seen them up in past years, I assumed that the road had been repaired enough to get to the parking area. Big mistake.

It is not passable unless you’re in a high-clearance 4WD And honesty I can’t even guarantee that because My CRV got stuck in the mud before I got that far. Thankfully a wonderful couple in a heavy duty pickup was able to get their truck up the road far enough to get me un-stuck. The only thing that saved my extremely bruised ego was learning that I wasn’t alone and that other people have been getting stuck semi-regularly since the signs were taken down.

Bonus road condition report for the rest of Jessup River Road to the Spruce Lake Trailhead - it seemed rougher to me than it has been in past years. I was fine in my CRV but I’d be a little concerned taking a sedan all the way there. You’ll be able to drive it, but I’d be a little worried about damage on a car with lower clearance or a delicate suspension.


vendredi 2 juillet 2021

St Regis laid back paddling

I spent a few days around St Regis this week.
Spent a few nights on Little Green and was joined by a buddy, his wife, 3 kids and 2 dogs!!
Looking back on my photos, it seems like I had ideal weather...it was not ideal.
Many storms passed over, some with impressive winds, lightening, thunder and heavy rains.
I did squeeze in some paddling up Ampersand Brook, but was hampered by the storms and the relentless deer flies.
But along the way, I did see a bald eagle, several beaver dam leaping whitetail deer, a beaver, tons of loons, a couple meteors, and even some fireflies.
I forgot how scenic the views are from Little Clear and even Hoel Pond...
I'll post some pics shortly.


Toms Run Loop-Del Water Gap

https://endlessmountains.wordpress.c...creation-area/

A great 4 mile loop in the national recreation area with streams, cascades, waterfalls, hemlocks, and a mountain top lake. We also saw a heron nest with chicks.


https://www.instagram.com/p/CQGW-ZKt..._web_copy_link


https://www.instagram.com/p/CQGYVRut..._web_copy_link


Anders Run Natural Area

https://endlessmountains.wordpress.c...-state-forest/

A small preserve with an impressive old growth forest, with some of the tallest trees in the east, about 400 years old.


https://www.instagram.com/p/CQPiRikt..._web_copy_link


jeudi 1 juillet 2021

Tailwaters

Hi All,

New to the forum, hello all! Avid trout flyfisher here.

What I was wondering is: given the heatwave we're seeing across the country, is are there any fishable tailwaters?

I'm near Star Lake / Cranberry Lake, so was specifically wondering whether the outlet dam from Cranberry might keep that part of the Oswegatchie cooler or if the Brookfield dam makes a tailwater going into the town of Fine?

As things will probably get hotter / more extreme (unfortunately) just wanted to see if there are places where I can catch fish without causing heat stress.

Not looking for any proprietary spots, but would appreciate any high-level guidance.

Thanks!


Buck Pond/Lake Kushaqua

Does anyone know how far the R1 island site is from the Buck Pond boat launch on Lake Kushaqua? Looking at maps it looks to be a very short paddle.


How are the mice numbers at Nick's Lake and other places this year??

I was talking to some people who said that last year there was an infestation of mice at Nick's Lake campground near Old Forge. I did a search and it seemed to be at a number of campgrounds including Fish Creek Campground. Question... has anyone experienced high numbers of mice while camping this year. My friend trapped 40 at Nick's last year and they were everywhere especially after the sun went down. Thanks, I have a site in July at Nick's and want to know what we might be heading into.