Hey all,
Part 1
So I had a minor self defense situation while leaving work tonight. I want to post it here and get people's feedback- good and bad. I am going to be detailed, so this will be long.
Situation- - leaving work at closing and checking the front door from the outside to make sure it is properly locked. To my right 12 - 15 ft is our bookdrop (where patron can still drop off books during closed hours.) There is a tall guy obviously quite drunk drinking out of a bottle with a brown bag wrapped around it. Potential problems- 1. patrons won't be able to drop off books. 2. We have had an incident of someone drunk peeing into our bookdrop and damaging QUITE a lot of books in the past. 3. Other messes (defecation on walls etc. )from drunks and/ or homeless hanging out overnight.
This really isn't that uncommon. So, I calmly let him know he cannot drink and hang out there and needs to move elsewhere. I have done this many times before and it usually isn't an issue. The person moves on without a problem most of the time. But this guy got beligerant and angry and started yelling and cursing. I calmly let him know, he just can't hang out in a public place drinking. My co-worker comes up at this time. She reiterates what I said and moves next to me. She says all he has to do is cross the street and not be on Library property. He starts gesturing and talking in a threatening manner. I could not hear the actual words besides cursing. She says she will call the police and it would be better for all if he just moved somewhere else. He continues so she gets the phone. Important to know. He is between us and the area we need to get to to get in our cars. A third co worker is on the other side watching the situation.
As she is on the phone with police, he starts what my third co worker calls "mad dogging" he starts pacing in front of us - still cursing and in an aggressive manner. He had put his bottle in a bag. As he paced in front of us- still a few feet away - I told her quietly to step back slowly a couple of steps. I did the same, but I stepped a little in front of my co-worker as I moved back. I calmly noticed his distance, his hand position, the position of the bottle. I was about to set down my backpack that was in my hand to assume a "we don't want any trouble, but arms in a protective position" posture. But it wasn't quite necessary yet. And I didn't want to escalate things by putting the bag down. I could also have swung the bag at him.
He went to the back alley. My co-worker finished the call to have the police come by to move him on. The three of us left together. I watched co-worker #2 get in her car.
I was giving a ride to the other one and we left right after.
Part 2 will be my self analysis.
Part 1
So I had a minor self defense situation while leaving work tonight. I want to post it here and get people's feedback- good and bad. I am going to be detailed, so this will be long.
Situation- - leaving work at closing and checking the front door from the outside to make sure it is properly locked. To my right 12 - 15 ft is our bookdrop (where patron can still drop off books during closed hours.) There is a tall guy obviously quite drunk drinking out of a bottle with a brown bag wrapped around it. Potential problems- 1. patrons won't be able to drop off books. 2. We have had an incident of someone drunk peeing into our bookdrop and damaging QUITE a lot of books in the past. 3. Other messes (defecation on walls etc. )from drunks and/ or homeless hanging out overnight.
This really isn't that uncommon. So, I calmly let him know he cannot drink and hang out there and needs to move elsewhere. I have done this many times before and it usually isn't an issue. The person moves on without a problem most of the time. But this guy got beligerant and angry and started yelling and cursing. I calmly let him know, he just can't hang out in a public place drinking. My co-worker comes up at this time. She reiterates what I said and moves next to me. She says all he has to do is cross the street and not be on Library property. He starts gesturing and talking in a threatening manner. I could not hear the actual words besides cursing. She says she will call the police and it would be better for all if he just moved somewhere else. He continues so she gets the phone. Important to know. He is between us and the area we need to get to to get in our cars. A third co worker is on the other side watching the situation.
As she is on the phone with police, he starts what my third co worker calls "mad dogging" he starts pacing in front of us - still cursing and in an aggressive manner. He had put his bottle in a bag. As he paced in front of us- still a few feet away - I told her quietly to step back slowly a couple of steps. I did the same, but I stepped a little in front of my co-worker as I moved back. I calmly noticed his distance, his hand position, the position of the bottle. I was about to set down my backpack that was in my hand to assume a "we don't want any trouble, but arms in a protective position" posture. But it wasn't quite necessary yet. And I didn't want to escalate things by putting the bag down. I could also have swung the bag at him.
He went to the back alley. My co-worker finished the call to have the police come by to move him on. The three of us left together. I watched co-worker #2 get in her car.
I was giving a ride to the other one and we left right after.
Part 2 will be my self analysis.
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