Not sure how to say this and it isnt really an issue nor is it meant to offend. Just want some other peoples take on things. I have intentionally left this out of TKD thread so as to involve a wider audience for respective martial arts and cultures.
I study TKD and love the art, the bag work, sparring the almost militarised drilling etc. Im even growing to like patterns. I dont like the TKD culture. By that I mean trying to adopt/replace my own culture. Some people love it and thats fine. I dont mind counting in Korean, I see that as educational to some degree but do I really need to know what the Korean for punch, side kick, turning kick etc. is? Am I really required to bow when entering and leaving the dojang.
I hear people talking as much as they can in Korean and trying to make me and others understand that language. This is nothing against Koreans or TKD or any other art for that matter and Is all to do with the people preaching the language and the culture. Im Scottish, Im sure other people from Japanese, Filipino etc. have their own influences as well. Its not the culture that bothers me, its the people that try to force it onto you.
Van Zandt made a comment on another thread some time ago about TKD putting the left arm under the elbow when handing you certificate or something other than. It has come to my attention that Korean people do this in general everyday life as an act of politeness. Do we really need to steal that part of their culture. Does it have to be imposed on us?
I recently trained with a National TKD coach and before class started he asked the students not to address him as sir and use his name instead. He stated that most coaches from this country do this as a way of keeping their identity in what he rightly called a sport. That may or may not be the case but it made sense to me. Im not into the subservient thing I guess.
This will happen in all other TMAs as well and there will be people like me who just want to train and I think thats fine.
Just so you know the reason I bring this is up is because a friend of mine was roundly criticised for not knowing the Korean for inner forearm block. I thought it was out of order.
In my place of training Im not required to bow when entering leaving the dojang and Im not asked to speak Korean but when it comes to grading I am. This is due to the organisation and not my gym/dojang.
Many people love taking on another cultural identity and thats fine but I dont think it should be imposed upon you. Just as a side note, none of the instructors in the organisation are Korean. All are Scottish. My opinion is basically knowing the Korean for punch isnt going to make it any better technically.
Your thoughts please guys.
Baza
I study TKD and love the art, the bag work, sparring the almost militarised drilling etc. Im even growing to like patterns. I dont like the TKD culture. By that I mean trying to adopt/replace my own culture. Some people love it and thats fine. I dont mind counting in Korean, I see that as educational to some degree but do I really need to know what the Korean for punch, side kick, turning kick etc. is? Am I really required to bow when entering and leaving the dojang.
I hear people talking as much as they can in Korean and trying to make me and others understand that language. This is nothing against Koreans or TKD or any other art for that matter and Is all to do with the people preaching the language and the culture. Im Scottish, Im sure other people from Japanese, Filipino etc. have their own influences as well. Its not the culture that bothers me, its the people that try to force it onto you.
Van Zandt made a comment on another thread some time ago about TKD putting the left arm under the elbow when handing you certificate or something other than. It has come to my attention that Korean people do this in general everyday life as an act of politeness. Do we really need to steal that part of their culture. Does it have to be imposed on us?
I recently trained with a National TKD coach and before class started he asked the students not to address him as sir and use his name instead. He stated that most coaches from this country do this as a way of keeping their identity in what he rightly called a sport. That may or may not be the case but it made sense to me. Im not into the subservient thing I guess.
This will happen in all other TMAs as well and there will be people like me who just want to train and I think thats fine.
Just so you know the reason I bring this is up is because a friend of mine was roundly criticised for not knowing the Korean for inner forearm block. I thought it was out of order.
In my place of training Im not required to bow when entering leaving the dojang and Im not asked to speak Korean but when it comes to grading I am. This is due to the organisation and not my gym/dojang.
Many people love taking on another cultural identity and thats fine but I dont think it should be imposed upon you. Just as a side note, none of the instructors in the organisation are Korean. All are Scottish. My opinion is basically knowing the Korean for punch isnt going to make it any better technically.
Your thoughts please guys.
Baza
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