Hi,
I appreciate that this post borders on the ridiculous but we're just having some fun so please be kind. :p
Our family always enjoys heading to the Mountaineer or the Loj after our hike and grabbing the associated patch as a memento.
We're planning a hike to Indian Head shortly. Here's the patch:

My son has always been a little obsessive about finding the actual summit marker at the top before "claiming" a mountain. I'm sure some of you will concur while others will find it a tad obsessive.
Rgardless, he is insistent that we need to hike to the summit of Indian Head to claim the patch. I've told him the patch refers to the vista, not the summit.
Here's the area in question:

His first argument is that the patch reads "Indian Head Mountain", not "Indian Head Vista".
I counter that Indian Head and it's views of the Lower and Upper Ausable Lakes are an iconic Adirondacks destination and all of the articles and trip reports that I've encountered have always focused on the vista, none have even mentioned the summit. Although the caption could be better, if someone is making an Indian Head patch they're clearly referring to the lookout.
His second argument is that the patch reads 2700 feet. The summit of Indian Head is 2680 feet. Elevation at the vista is around 2540 feet.
I argue that 2700 feet is often referred to as the elevation of the vista even though it is inaccurate. This is one example online of many. Perhaps because the main trail reaches 2660 feet before the spur descends to the vista.
The map (below) at the trail register lists Indian Head at 2700 feet and it's clearly referring to the vista.
So help me put the whipper snapper in his place and confirm that the patch refers to the vista.

I appreciate that this post borders on the ridiculous but we're just having some fun so please be kind. :p
Our family always enjoys heading to the Mountaineer or the Loj after our hike and grabbing the associated patch as a memento.
We're planning a hike to Indian Head shortly. Here's the patch:
My son has always been a little obsessive about finding the actual summit marker at the top before "claiming" a mountain. I'm sure some of you will concur while others will find it a tad obsessive.
Rgardless, he is insistent that we need to hike to the summit of Indian Head to claim the patch. I've told him the patch refers to the vista, not the summit.
Here's the area in question:
His first argument is that the patch reads "Indian Head Mountain", not "Indian Head Vista".
I counter that Indian Head and it's views of the Lower and Upper Ausable Lakes are an iconic Adirondacks destination and all of the articles and trip reports that I've encountered have always focused on the vista, none have even mentioned the summit. Although the caption could be better, if someone is making an Indian Head patch they're clearly referring to the lookout.
His second argument is that the patch reads 2700 feet. The summit of Indian Head is 2680 feet. Elevation at the vista is around 2540 feet.
I argue that 2700 feet is often referred to as the elevation of the vista even though it is inaccurate. This is one example online of many. Perhaps because the main trail reaches 2660 feet before the spur descends to the vista.
The map (below) at the trail register lists Indian Head at 2700 feet and it's clearly referring to the vista.
So help me put the whipper snapper in his place and confirm that the patch refers to the vista.
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